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THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL-In order banishment before the Deportation Ordin- and no wider than under the old law of make Clause 5 quite clear I move that HON. MR. POLLOCK-1 move as a the words to the knowledge of such ment Ordinance the Supreme Court held ance was passed. Under the old Banish- Amendment to Clause 3, sub-section person" be inserted so that the clause that the power of the Governor-in-Council I that after the word cash the words thall read Every person to whom any was absolute. Under paragraphs (a), (b) paid at the time previously liquors is, to the knowledge of such and (c) clause 4 (14) power is given to deposited" be inserted. The section person, supplied in contravention of this banish any person, no matter what his would read then "Subject to the proviffence against this Ordinance."
Ordinance shall also be guilty of an nationality, who is guilty of the mal- sions of sub-section 2 of this section,
practices referred to in those park- graphs.
other The only
provision
to fingerprints, which states that in any proceedings under this Ordinance it shall, until the contrary is shown. Le assumed that the finger-prints on any deportation order which has been pro duced are those of the person against whom the order was made.
your objection, Mr. Pollock!
for consumption on or at any licensed person shall sell any intoxicating liquo H.E. THE GOVERNOR Does that meet to which I need refer is the one relating premises except for cash paid at the time this affects the principle of the Bill in an or previously deposited." I do not think i way and it would enable us to have the deposit system.
H.E. THE GOVERNOR-I have seen that system in force in Canada and I think it leads to the most deplorable_results Men from the lumber camps-as fine mer as you could see in any country--who obtain 48 hours' leave every few week walk down to the inn not far from their camp and put down their wages and remain there until they have drunk al the money away. I think it is a bad system.
Colony because he drinks himself into Clauses 1 and 2 were passed without delirium tremens and at the bars of the amendment. few hotels there are here! It is not the first case we have had, but it is the most recent, and it was a case which attracted our attention to a flaw in the law. Then we had the case of this bagful of chits. I do not mind letting you know where we got them.
They came from the North Point Hotel, and the $3,000 of debts were incurred within a period of six months. The Captain Superintendent of Police has informed me since this debate began that the King Edward Hotel, about two years ago, showed him bad chits for the sum of $2,400 incurred during the stay of one ship in this port by the members of the crew. The Liquor Ordinance laya down that no person shall take or receive in payment of any intoxicating liquor for consumption on or at any licensed pre- mises any article except money. That is the same provision as exists in the Home Act. It is got round here by this perni- cious chit system, and although the chit system is not against the letter of the law it is certainly against the principle of it. It was never intended that people should get credit for as much drink as they liked and pay for it. or not pay for it, as they were able. As to Mr. Shewan's remarks, they remind me of the last night I spent in England at the Liverpool Street hotel. The bill next morning was something over £10 for my night's entertainment. tendered a cheque and I was somewhat astonished when the people in the office said they could not receive any cheques. I gave them my card and told them I was the Governor of Hongkong and referred them to the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank, which I thought would be quite good enough. It was not good enough, and, at great inconvenience, I had to go to the bank to draw money to pay the hotel bill. This is a very simple matter. It is a question of the conditions under which hotel-keepers who have the privilege of selling liquor over the bar by retail shall carry on their trade. I think the reasonable provisions of this Ordin ance will not do the least harm. I feel convinced that in the end they will redound to the benefit of those hotel- keepers. Therefore I ask you to pass this Bill. You have heard from one of our oldest residents that he himself regards it as reasonable. I think that ought to carry great weight in this Council.
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The motion was then put and carried, and the Bill was read a second time.
HON. MR. POLLOCK Yes.
The wendment was agreed to. The other clauses of the Bill were passed without amendment, and on Council resuming.
THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the third reading of the Bill as amended.
THE COLONIAL SECRETARY second- ed. and the Bill was read a third time, and passed.
Deportation Ordinance, 1917
THE COLONIAL SECRETARY second- ed, and the Bill was read & second time.
The Council then went into Committer to consider the Bill clause by clause.
The Bill passed through Committee without amendment, and, on Council resuming,
moved
THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL that the Bill be read a third time.
THE COLONIAL SECRETARY second- ed. and the Bill was read a third time and passed.
HON. MR. POLLOCK-It may be THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved very bad system in Canada. We have atthe second reading of the Bill intituled, heard the stories of the miners who pa An Ordinance to consolidate and amend down their nuggets of gold in the bar or the law relating to the deportation of the same principle. The conditions, hondesirable persons." He said there are ever, are different bere.
three tables annexed to the · Objects and Reasons." One gives the correspondence between the clauses of the Deportation Bill, 1917, and the sections of the Deporta: table gives the provisions in the Deportafollowed that of the Legislative Council tion Ordinances, 1914-1915, The second
A meeting of the Finaner Committee tion Bill, 1917. which are new. The third Ordinances which are omitted in the Bill. presiding:
FINANCE COMMITTEE.
H.E. THE GOVERNOR-You base you arguments upon the experience of the tw best hotels in the place, but if you the members of a ship's crew into on of the bars under that system of depositable gives the provisions in the former on Thursday, the COLONIAL SECRETARY some are likely to take all the mone they have in their pockets and place on deposit and remain until it has be drunk.
I think these tables obvinte the necessity of my going very much into detail and 1 will only draw attention to the principal banges which the Bill proposes to effect. The Bill as THE COLONIAL SECRETARY-In
a whole is a consolidating case of a well-known resident it wBill, and anyone who has had to work always be possible to get money at th
with the existing Ordinances will have no office of the hotel.
doubt as to the desirability of consolida- tion. There are four Ordinances at pre- sent, and the provisions are very com- plicated and it will be very convenient to have these provisions all in one Ordinance. One principal class of the new provisions deals with the nature of the discretion of the Governor-in-Council.
allowed under the Bill?
HON. MR. POLLOCK-Will that
TRE COLONIAL SECRETARY- should think so.
The motion was not pressed and Claus
amendment.
Council then went into Committee to 3 and Clause 4 were passed withou consider the Bill clause by clause.
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St. Joseph's College
The Governor recommended the Council
vote 2 hundred and fifty dollars in aid of the sum of one thousand seven vote Grants, Building Grant for St. Joseph's Education, Special Expenditure. College.
THE CHAIRMAN The Secretary of State has approved of the building grant from $2,500 to $6,000. The sum of $2,500 to St. Joseph's College being increased has been paid and the additional $3,300 These provi will be paid, balf this year and half next The vote is required for this year's
sions are contained in sub-clauses 1 and 2 of Clause 4 and in Clause 13. The discre year. tion given is, of course, very wide, but no payment.
wider than under the present existing law i The vote was agreed to.
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